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An
Interview with Royal Raymond Rife! 
 Royal
Raymond Rife and his engineer John Crane developed a new type of frequency therapy
device, in the 50s, using electrodes placed on the body to administer the resonance
waves. Just 10 years later, the AMA again struck to silence this form of therapy.
In 1960 John Crane's laboratories were raided without a search warrant, years
of work were either confiscated or smashed and Crane was taken to trial in spring
1961. Although there was a large amount of evidence supporting the effectivness
of the Rife/Crane therapy, this evidence was not permitted to be used in the trial!
John Crane was sentenced to 10 years in prison of which he served 3 years and
1 month.
During the preparation for this trial in
1961, the defense lawyer sent a long list of 137 highly interesting questions
to Royal Rife, who was in Mexico at the time, on the research he and Crane had
done. These questions and answers were also not permitted to be used in defense
and ONLY the questions could be found amongt the trial papers as stored in the
court house, today. Until very recently the answers to these questions were believed
to have been lost. They have only now been found by someone who had the answers,
but not the questions. The answers have been dated, 22nd March 1961.
For
the first time (as far as I know), these questions and answers are appearing here
together on the Internet. It contains some very interesting comments on the work
of Royal Rife as he saw it himself and answers many questions only guessed at
before. I (Peter Walker) recently received photocopies of these documents and
due to the poor state of the copies, I typed in the questions and answers manually
as scanning was not practical. Some obvious grammatical and spelling mistakes
have been corrected and crossed out words have been omitted (all unreadable, except
where noted). Differences between British and American English (e.g. "tumor" instead
of "tumour") have been left in the original American form. The answers were originally
typed almost entirely in upper case. To improve readability, the normal case has
been used instead. Any comments I have added are in square brackets []. Otherwise,
the list of questions and answers shown here is complete and nothing has been
left out. Anyone is welcome to link to this page (or
preferably my site), but do not simply copy the contents of this page and place
it on any other site. The source of this information is known to me by name and
is reliable.
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The
Background to the John Crane Trial as told by Barry Lynes  By
1960, Crane had written and copyrighted a manual which explained how the Frequency
Instrument was to be used in the experimental treatment of various diseases and
on different parts of the body. By that year, 90 instruments were distributed
for research and verification on notarized contracts. And then the medical authorities
struck.
They raided Crane's office, took over $40,000
in machines, frequency instruments, and one large Rife ray tube instrument, along
with engineering data, research records and reports, pictures off the wall, private
letters, invoices, tape recordings, and electronic parts-all without a search
warrant. They smashed all the research which had
been put together over 10 laborious years. As in 1939, they visited the doctors
who were experimenting with the machines and forced them to abandon them. They
also pressured ordinary citizens who had begun experimenting on a personal basis. These
visits were made by teams of investigators. "One woman was scared so bad that
she has been in a sanitarium driven entirely out of her mind. Her husband cursed
them out and told them, to get off his property and has threatened to exterminate
them should they return. His wife has undergone shock treatments and two months
of hospitalization." The records and materials
seized were not allowed to be used by Crane in his own defense during his trial. Roy
Rife, almost 73 and incapable of suffering the abuse of another trial at his age,
went into hiding in Mexico. His deposition was not
permitted to be introduced at the trial. Neither
were the medical and scientific reports from the 1930s and 1940s. Nor were medical
reports from Dr. Stafford in Ohio. Dr. Couche's letters were also declared inadmissable.
No medical or scientific report which indicated the Frequency Instrument worked
as represented was permitted to be introduced at the trial. Crane was left naked
with only the patients who had been cured or helped. The
trial was held in early 1961. After 24 days, and despite the testimony of 14 patients
who told how the Frequency Instrument cured ailments and diseases which orthodox
medicine could not alleviate, Crane was found guilty. The only medical opinion
offered by the State of California came from Dr. Paul Shea who had been given
a Frequency Instrument by the Public Health Department for 2 months before the
trial. Shea admitted he never tried the Frequency Instrument on anything or made
any tests to evaluate it. He simply examined it and decided that it had no curative
powers and didn't lend itself to investigative use. Also,
and most disturbing, the foreman of the jury was an AMA doctor. Everyone else
was carefully screened to see that they had no medical knowledge, no electronic
knowledge, and didn't read any newspapers supporting alternative healing. The
verdict was a foregone conclusion. Crane was sentenced to 10 years in jail. Following
appeals, two of the three counts against Crane were reversed in the California
Supreme Court because no specific criminal intent had been proven. But Crane still
spent 3 years and 1 month in jail. The cure for cancer had been effectively suppressed
again. During the trial, James Hannibal, age 76,
testified. Blind in one eye, he'd been treated by the Frequency Instrument. After
several applications, his cataract disappeared-just as cataracts had dissolved
in many of Dr. Milbank Johnson's patients during the 1935-37 clinics. Other witnesses
at Crane's trial testified to the curing of chronic bladder irritation, and the
elimination of a throat lump one-half of the size of an egg. Also cured were fungus
growths on hands, fissures in the anus, pyorrhea, arthritis, ulcerated colon,
varicose veins, prostrate troubles, tumorous growth over eyes, colitis, pains
in the back, and heart attacks. One man testified that for 17 years he had a growth
the size of an egg on his spine. After treatment, it had disappeared. After
Crane was imprisoned, so much pressure was put on Dr. Stafford in Ohio that he
gave up medicine and became a salesman. Another doctor in Salt Lake City had his
Frequency Instrument sabotaged and then was hounded by the orthodox medical authorities
to such an extent that he committed suicide. Such were the lengths to which the
anti-Rife forces were willing to go in order to prevent the testing and use of
this breakthrough technology.
The
Questions to and Answers from Royal Raymond Rife in 1960
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1. | Please
state your name? | | | Royal
Raymond Rife |
| 2.
| Where
do you reside? | | | As
a tourist in Tijuana [Mexico just over the border from San
Diego, CA] |
| 3.
| Is
it your intention to attend as a witness at the trial of this action? |
| | No |
| 4.
| Are
you the same Royal R. Rife who invented the system of killing or de-activating
pathogenic organisms by electronic waves or frequencies produced by instruments
similar to those made by Mr. John Crane, one of the Defendants in this case? |
| | Yes |
| 5.
| If
so, when did you begin your experimental work on this system? |
| | 1915 |
| 6.
| How
long a period did your work cover, in developing the device and the techniques
of its use? | | | From
1920 to the present time - 40 years and development is still continuing. |
| 7.
| What
is the basic theory upon which you sought to find a means of killing pathogenic
organisms? | | | The
theory of coordinative resonance with frequencies which I proved would kill microorganisms
by electron transfer and internal stresses of pathogenic cells owing to electromagnetic
and electrostatic forces. |
| 8.
| What
kind of pathogenic organisms did you study, in these experiments? |
| | Tetanus, typhoid, gonorrhea,
syphilis, staphylococci, pneumonia, strertothrix, streptococi, tuberculosis, sarcoma,
carcinoma, leprosy, polio, cholera, actinomycosis, glanders, bubonic plague, anthrax,
influenza, herpes, cataracts, glaucomia, colitis, sinus, ulcers and many other
virus bacteria, and fungi. |
| 9.
| From
what sources were these organisms obtained? | | | The
Hooper Foundation, Paradise Valley Sanatorium, from Northwestern Medical University
in Chicago, from the Mayo Clinic, and from many medical doctors. |
| 10.
| What
sort of laboratory facilities did you have, for use in these experiments? |
| | I had one of the best privately
equipped laboratories in the world complete with a million volt X-Ray, frequency
instruments, electronic test equipment, precision lathes, mills, drill presses,
shaper and all equipment necessary to make instruments, microscopes, glass blowing,
and a surgical room for animals with sterilizers of the steam type and a pathology
room complete with microscopes of all types virus microscopes which I had designed
and built for the isolation of cancer virus, T.B. virus, typhoid virus and many
other virus. I had a stop motion microscope set up for the life study of microorganisms
from the cradle to the grave. I had animals in cages in the basement with facilities
for 1000 animals. The Rife Research Laboratory was air-conditioned and humidity
controlled to one tenth of one degree. |
| 11.
| Where
was your laboratory located? | | | On
Alcott Street across the bridges mansion in Point Loma |
| 12.
| Did
you study viruses, among other pathogenic organisms? |
| | Yes. |
| 13.
| Were
any special instruments required for your study of viruses? |
| | Yes. |
| 14.
| What
were they? | | | Prismatic
virus microscopes and Berkefelt porcelain filters, a micromanipulator and electronic
test instruments and frequency instruments. |
| 15.
| Were
all of these obtained from ordinary commercial sources? |
| | No - I could not buy them on
the open market and they are still not obtainable even today. |
| 16.
| If
some were not obtainable from ordinary commercial sources, how did you obtain
them? | | | I
had to design and build these instruments to accomplish what I wanted to attain
with my research. |
| 17.
| Who
designed these? | | | I
designed them. |
| 18. | Where
were they made? | | | In
the Rife Research Laboratory |
| 19.
| Describe
these special instruments for us? | | | The
universal microscope was described and published by the journal
of the Franklin Institute. Time does not permit me to describe all of the
many instruments that I designed and constructed. The micromanipultor was used
to dissect and operate on cells. The spectrometer was used to measure the angle
of crystals, the frequency instruments were used to kill bacteria, virus, and
fungi, the microscopes of the prismatic virus were used to study living virus,
bacteria, and fungi, a petrographical micropolariscope was used to analyze chemicals
and color frequencies with polarized light, special rare gas glass contained atmospheres
were used to provide ionized radiation to transmit energy to increase virulence
and to devitalize all microorganisms as desired. |
| 20.
| Which
pathogenic organisms did you study in virus form? | | | Cancer
virus, typhoid, tuberculosis virus, herpes virus, B-coli virus, poliomyelitis
virus, and about 40 other viruses that have never been isolated before. |
| 21.
| How
did you obtain these viruses? | | | From
pure cultures of known and medical diagnosed tissues of human disease filtered
through porcelain Berkefeld filters. |
| 22.
| Describe
your experiments by which you isolated these viruses? |
| | After the filtered form was
obtained, a micropipette is used to place a drop of the fluid on a slide. This
slide is placed on the microscope stage of any of the 5 virus microscopes that
I designed and built. A special Bisely prism which works on a counter rotation
principle selects a portion of the light frequency which illuminates these virus
in their own characteristic chemical colors by emission of coordinative light
frequency and the virus become readily identifiable by the colors revealed on
observation. 8000 to 17000x magnification is sufficient to see them. Before building
the virus prismatic microscopes, I sectioned over 15,000 slides trying all types
of acid and aniline dye strains with no results over a period of 10 years. |
| 23.
| How
did you determine whether these viruses were pathogenic? |
| | By animal tests and from
known sources and by microscope examination which reveals the true identity of
microorganisms to the trained observer. |
| 24.
| Describe
your experiments made to prove that these viruses were pathogenic? |
| | On one series of cancer
tests, I inoculated the virus which I had isolated and filtered from an unulcerated
breast mass into an Albino rat, the tumor was allowed to grow and then I surgically
removed the tumor and again isolated and filtered the virus from a portion of
the ground up tumor and inoculated the next rat and repeated this procedure 411
times to prove that this virus was the causative agent of cancer. Tests on many
other diseases such as those previously mentioned are too numerous to even start
on at this time. |
| 25.
| About
how long a period of time did your work/study of these viruses, and proof of their
pathogenic character, cover? | | | 15
years on virus only |
| 26.
| Did
you also study bacterial forms of pathogenic organisms associated with these viruses? |
| | Yes. |
| 27.
| Did
you find whether some bacteria were capable of releasing a form of virus? |
| | Yes. Virus are released
from bacteria just as a chicken lays an egg. |
| 28.
| How
did you determine this? | | | By
virus observation and cell study and virus photographs which I made and one which
John Crane made from a film of cancer virus which has been copyrighted. |
| 29.
| What
are some of the bacteria which you found to be capable of releasing a form of
virus? | | | Bacillus
coli, tuberculosis, typhoid, and many others. |
| 30.
| Were
certain kinds of culture media better suited than others to the study of the relationship
between the bacteria and virus forms? | | | A
media developed by Arthur I. Kendall known as "K" media proved superior to other
types of bacteria media |
| 31.
| If
so, why, or in what way, were some culture media superior to others for this purpose? |
| | Because of the results
obtained | |
32. | Were
any physicians or scientists associated with you in any of these studies? |
| | Yes |
| 33.
| Who
were they? | | | Milbank
Johnson, M.D., Arthur I. Kendall, Ph.D., E.C. Rosenow, M.D., Coolidge of General
Electric, O.C. Grunner, M.D., Henry Siner, Dr. Copp, M.D., Alvin G. Foord, M.D.,
Ernest Lynwood Walker, M.D., and Karl Meyer, M.D., of the Hooper Foundation of
San Francisco, George Dock, M.D.,Waylen Morrison, M.D., Dr. Fischer, M.D., Verne
Thompson, Ben Cullen, Ray Lounsberry, M.D., James B. Couche, M.D., Charles F.
Tully, D.D.S., Arthur Yale, M.D., R.T. Hamer, M.D., John Crane, Dave Sawyer, Don
Tully, J. Heitger, M.D., Royal Lee, Ph.D., T.O. Burger, M.D., Alice Kendall and
many others. |
| 34.
| Where
did they work with you? | | | Work
was conducted in various laboratories, offices, and buildings in San Diego and
in the United States. I traveled all over the world and many doctors and scientists
and executives visited me at my various laboratories including the Rife Research
Laboratory, The Point Loma Lab set up at Dr. Tully's, The Rife Virus Microscope
Institute, and another microscope and dark room facility at San Diego, and I furnished
free of charge to the police crime laboratory thousands of dollars worth of chemicals,
precision instruments, electronic instruments, and training in microscope techniques
and laboratory diagnosis and other equipment and glassware after I closed the
Rife Research Laboratory in 1946. Another laboratory for research work on seawater
conversion was set up and used at the foot of Canyon Street in Point Loma. |
| 35.
| What
part did they have in any of these experiments or studies? |
| | Initially the work and
the origin was developed under my control and guidance. Later their work became
an interest of collaboration and observation of the results attained. Initially
I worked with loose couplers to get an audio oscillation and then with the use
of transmitters, I tried to balance the audio and modulate the audio on a carrier
wave to transmit the audio energy but I found that both the audio and the audio
transmitted through a tube as an antenna worked equally as well in a painless
and harmless method to human tissue. Coolidge furnished many tubes. Milbank Johnson,
a multimillionaire, set up and supervised three human research clinics. The first
clinic was set up under a special medical research committee of the University
of Southern California with Dr. Rufus B. von Klein Smidt on the committee in the
home of Ellen Scripps in La Jolla in 1934. Johnson selected outstanding doctors
to aid us in the clinical work such as Docks, Morrison, Foord, Meyer, Kendall,
Rosenow, Fischer of the Children's Hospital in New York, and others helping or
observing were Heitger, Lounsberry, Copp, Alice Kendall, Henry Seiner, Grunner,
Burger, Hamer, Couche, Yale, and Cullen. Walker and I studied leprosy and I isolated
a virus which we jointly demonstrated was common to rat, soil, and human leprosy
and I found a frequency which would eliminate leprosy. Dr. Gonin M.D. visited
me and I sent Henry Siner to demonstrate a virus microscope in England to the
medical profession there. Alice Kendall worked for me in the lab and so did Henry
Seiner and others. From 1950 and on, John Crane has continued on with this research.
The others were visitors and interested parties. Many others have aided in promotion
of this research and the AMA has suppressed all effort and research knowledge
of my developments. |
| 36.
| Did
you grow bacteria and viruses in various culture media? |
| | Yes |
| 37.
| How
did you determine what they were? | | | They
can readily be diagnosed by their own true colors which are emitted when placed
in any of the five virus microscopes that I designed and built for this virus
identification and study. |
| 38.
| What
study and experience did you have in the science of optics, before commencing
these experiments? | | | I
studied for 6 years with Hans Luckel who was Carl Zeiss's optical scientist and
researcher. I also made all the photomicrographs for the Atlas of Parasites which
was done at the University of Heidelberg. I also studied eye surgery for two years |
| 39.
| Over
about what period of time had you made such study and gained this experience? |
| | Nine years before commencing
on my own research. |
| 40.
| Did
you find ordinary microscopes, such as are obtainable from commercial sources,
adequate for the study of these viruses? | | | No |
| 41.
| In
what ways were they deficient? | | | They
have insufficient power, poor detail and definition, and poor resolution and cannot
illuminate the virus with selective frequency or frequencies of monochromatic
beam light which is required to see virus control of the light is very important. |
| 42.
| What
types of microscope did you find necessary to complete your study of these viruses? |
| | Prismatic virus microscopes
which I designed and built for virus study and research only. I have never tried
to commercialize on these instruments. They were offered to Baush and Lomb but
they couldn't justify the cost of tooling to build these complex instruments and
the doctors could not afford to buy them either because they would have been too
expensive for the average laboratory to even consider. |
| 43.
| In
what ways did they differ from the commercially available types? |
| | In the barrel were prisms
which transmitted the light. The stage had to be leveled and a series of condenser
lenses between the patented microscope lamp of mine and the Risely prism were
located below the stage. Special lens spacings were important to compensate for
the extra long tube length of 220 and 440 mm and a higher degree of accuracy in
stage adjustments was provided. In the Universal Microscope, 7 turns of the dial
moved the object under study one micron. Slit ultra illumination was also provided. |
| |   |
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44. | Did
you obtain the kinds of special microscopes you found to be necessary? |
| | Yes |
| 45.
| How
did you obtain them? | | | I
built many and I purchased some and had them built to my specifications |
| 46.
| What
types were they? | | | Standard
research types, prismatic virus types, crystallographic, petrographical-micropolariscope,
polarized, and historical types. |
| 47.
| What
did these special microscopes do which the commercially available types would
not do as well? | | | Show
virus and allow us to study them alive and identify them as virus and allow us
to diagnose them as to the disease of which they caused and were associated. |
| 48.
| What
is necessary, in order to make bacteria and viruses visible under the microscope? |
| | First there must be high
enough power to enable the observer to see them and second they must be identified
by a frequency of light which coordinates with the chemical constituents of the
virus or filterable form in question. To my knowledge there is only one instrument
today which will even show these virus and that is the Rife prismatic virus microscopes
which I built for this work. The electron microscope is a useless device for this
study because the virus are killed instantly and you don't know what form you
are seeing them in and generally appear as round balls of dried up chemical particles. |
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| 49.
| What
different methods of staining bacteria and viruses are in common use? |
| | Acid and analine dye strains
of many formulae are commercially available. |
| 50.
| Did
you find these common methods of staining sufficient for the experiments you performed? |
| | No |
| 51.
| If
not, what were their deficiencies? | | | They
would not show the flagella, or the virus. |
| 52.
| Did
you devise another method of staining or making visible bacteria and viruses? |
| | Yes |
| 53.
| What
was this method? | | | I
had devised a stain with Alfalfa hay and mercury for flagella on B-Coli and typhoid
to count their concentration. Virus were made visible for the first time with
a variable light frequency controlled by a Risely prism of a counter-rotating
nature, an iris diaphragm, condenser lenses and other features previously mentioned. |
| 54.
| Explain
how it was done? | | | By
rotation and variable monochromatic beam adjustment of the Rife prismatic virus
microscopes. |
| 55.
| How
did you obtain the instruments necessary to do this? |
| | I built them in my research
laboratory. Which is shown in movies that John Crane has at RVMI |
| 56.
| What
study and experience have you had in the science of Bacteriology? |
| | I studied bacteriology
at John Hopkins University and the University of Heidelberg and in my own research
laboratory. |
| 57.
| Over
about what period of time did you get this study and experience? |
| | 40 years |
| 58.
| Besides
studying bacteria and viruses growing in culture media, did you also make any
study of their effects upon laboratory animals inoculated with such bacteria or
viruses? | | | Yes |
| 59.
| What
kinds of animal were used in such experiments? | | | Albino
rats, Guina pigs, rabbits. I had about 800 rats which were used constantly. |
| 60.
| Where
were such experiments performed? | | | In
the Rife Research Laboratory in Point Loma |
| 61.
| Under
whose direction? | | | Under
my direction |
| 62.
| Did
any other scientists or physicians assist you in any of these studies of inoculated
laboratory animals? | | | No,
but I had men that worked for me and helped me. |
| 63.
| Did
any other scientists observe, without actually assisting, any of these studies
or experiments? | | | Yes.
Dr. Kendall, Grunner, Johnson, Couche, Copp, Lounsberry, Burger, Seiner, Cullen,
Foord, Rosenow, Karl Meyer, Walker, and others as stated before. |
| 64.
| Who
were they? | | | [no
answer given] |
| 65.
| What
part did they take in such studies? | | | By
bringing cancer tissue, collaborating results, by using the virus microscopes
and observing my results and observations, by growing virus and by conducting
clinical tests on virus, bacteria and fungi on cultures and human cases or patients
for their own research and knowledge. |
| 66.
| As
a result of such studies, did you and Dr. Arthur I. Kendall publish a report of
some of your experiments or studies of filterable forms of Bacillus Typhosus? |
| | Yes |
| 67.
| Was
this report published in "California and Western Medicine", the journal of the
California Medical Association, in the December, 1931, issue? |
| | Yes |
| 69.
| Was
this Dr. Arthur Isaac Kendall, Ph. D., at that time the Director of Medical Research
of Northwestern University Medical School? | | | Yes |
| 70.
| In
July, 1932, did you continue some of this study of bacteria and viruses with Dr.
Isaac Kendall in his laboratory at Northwestern University Medical School? |
| | Yes |
| 71.
| At
that time, did Dr. E. C. Rosenow, M.D., of the Division of Experimental Bacteriology
of the Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota, observe some of this study made at Northwestern
University Medical School, in Dr. Kendall's laboratory? |
| | Yes |
| 72.
| Did
Dr. Rosenow publish a report of this study in the July 1932 issue of the Mayo
Clinic bulletin? | | | Yes |
| 74.
| About
when did you begin your experiments in the effect of electronic frequencies upon
bacteria and viruses? | | | 1920 |
| 75.
| How
did you obtain the device or mechanism used to generate such frequencies? |
| | Some coils I wound myself.
Other parts I purchased. |
| 76.
| How
did you determine whether particular frequencies had any affect upon bacteria
or viruses? | | | By
observation with bacteria and virus under the Rife virus prismatic microscopes
in conjunction with the application of electronic energy. |
| 77.
| Were
you able to kill or de-activate any bacteria or viruses by the application to
them of electronic currents or rays? | | | Yes |
| 78.
| Can
you name some of the bacteria and viruses which you were able to kill or de-activate
by such means? | | | Tetanus,
typhoid, gonorrhea, treponema pallidum, staphylococci, pneumonia, streptothrix,
bacillus coli, tuberculosis, streptococci, sarcoma, carcinoma, and many others.
It was found that by using combinations of these frequencies for the different
microorganisms that many other disease could be helped like sinus, ulcers, cataract,
arthritis, poliomyelitis, etc. |
| 79.
| Is
there a distinction between the terms "kill" and "de-activate" as you have used
them? That is to say, were any of these viruses or bacteria deprived of their
virulent activity without having to completely kill them? |
| | Yes. On some research it
was found that after transfer to another media no further reproduction would occur. |
| 80.
| After
treatment of viruses or bacteria by the application to them of certain electronic
currents or rays, as you have mentioned, was there ever any change in the appearance
of such bacteria or viruses as seen under your microscope? If so, describe it. |
| | Yes. Some types will explode
or disintegrate and some will gather together like log jams or agluetinate. |
| 81.
| Were
you acquainted with Dr. Milbank Johnson, M. D., during this period? |
| | Yes |
| 82.
| Did
he participate in any of your experiments or studies on the effect of electronic
frequencies upon bacteria and viruses? | | | Yes |
| 83.
| Did
he participate in any of your experiments or studies on the effect of these electronic
frequencies upon laboratory animals which had been inoculated with various diseases? |
| | Yes |
| 84.
| Did
you furnish one of your electronic frequency-generators to Dr. Milbank Johnson
for his use? | | | Yes |
| 85.
| Over
about what period of time did he use it? | | | 8
years | |
86. | Where
did he make use of it? | | | In
the Santa Fe hospital in Los Angeles and a private clinic in Pasadena. |
| 87.
| Was
this electronic frequency-generator used by him or under his direction in the
treatment of diseases of human patients? | | | Yes |
| 88.
| Did
he report to you the result of these treatments? | | | Yes |
| 89.
| Did
you observe the giving of any of these treatments? | | | Yes |
| 90.
| Did
you observe the results of these treatments? | | | Yes |
| 91.
| What
changes did you observe in the condition of any of the patients so treated by
Dr. Milbank Johnson with the instrument you had furnished to him? Describe them
in detail? | | | I
observed some cataract cases, etc. |
| 92.
| During
the period of time when Dr. Milbank Johnson was so using your electronic frequency-generator,
were you acquainted with Dr. James B. Couche M. D. (now deceased)? |
| | Yes |
| 93.
| Did
Dr. James B. Couche participate in the work of Dr. Milbank Johnson in the treatment
of human patients with the frequency-generator? | | | Yes |
| 94.
| Did
you furnish Dr. James B. Couche, M. D., with one of your electronic frequency-generators
for his own use? | | | Yes.
The beam Ray Corporation built two instruments for Dr. Couche |
| 95.
| When
did Dr. Milbank Johnson die? | | | 1942 |
| 96.
| Was
the work of Dr. Milbank Johnson in treating human patients with your frequency-generator
continued after his death? | | | Yes |
| 97.
| Did
Dr. James B. Couche continue to use the frequency-generator which you had furnished
to him? If so, until about what date? | | | Yes.
Until he died in 1959 |
| 98.
| About
when did Dr. James B. Couche die? | | | In
the spring of 1959 |
| 99.
| Did
Dr. James B. Couche report to you the results of his use of your electronic frequency-generator? |
| | Yes |
| 100.
| Did
you observe any of the treatments given by Dr. James B. Couche with your electronic
frequency-generator? | | | Yes |
| 101.
| Did
you observe the results of any of the treatments given by Dr. James B. Couche
with your electronic frequency-generator? | | | Yes |
| 102.
| What
changes did you observe in the condition of any of the human patients who had
been so treated with your frequency-generator by Dr. James B. Couche? |
| | I saw cancer and tuberculosis
cases that had completely recovered. I saw Dr. Couches brother who had come over
from England. He had a 30 year sinus condition with terrible drainage. Dr. Couche
used the frequency instrument on him and he was well in three weeks. Dr. Couche
had treated Dr. Hamer, M.D. for a sinus condition which cleared up. Dr. Couche
had treated Dr. Butterfield, M.D's brother-in-law who had a stiff wrist * a tuberculosis
of the bone which cleared up. Also I saw a mexican boy who had osteomelitys of
the bone which Dr. Couche cleared up with the frequency instrument. I saw George
Lemm being treated by Dr. Couche for tuberculosis and he had come out from Chicago
to die. He was sent from the Vulclain home. As soon as they found out that Couche
was getting results, they tried to get all of their patients back but Lemm said
no that he was going to finish up with Couche and he completely recovered. |
| 103.
| Did
you furnish Dr. Arthur W. Yale, M. D. (now deceased) with one of your electronic
frequency-generators? If so, about when? | | | Yes.
He ordered an instrument from the Beam Ray Corporation in 1937 |
| 104.
| Did
Dr. Arthur W. Yale furnish you with any reports of the results of his treatment
of human patients with your electronic frequency-generator device? |
| | Yes |
| 105.
| Did
you observe the results of any of the treatments given by Dr. Arthur W. Yale? |
| | Yes |
| 106.
| Did
you observe the condition of any of Dr. Arthur W. Yale's patients after they had
been treated by him with your electronic frequency-generator? If so, what change,
if any, in their condition did you observe? | | | Yes.
They completely recovered from syphilis, cancer, tuberculosis, and many other
infections |
| 107.
| Did
you perform any experiments on laboratory animals which had been inoculated with
any diseases, to determine the affect upon such animals of treatment with your
electronic frequency-generator? | | | Yes |
| 108.
| What
kind of animals did you use? | | | Albino
rats, rabbits, Guina pigs |
| 109.
| With
what diseases were these animals inoculated? | | | Sarcoma,
carcinoma, tuberculosis, typhoid, etc. |
| 110.
| Were
any of these animals inoculated with cancer in any form? |
| | Yes |
| 111.
| Describe
in detail the experiments with your electronic frequency-generator? |
| | Before the animal was inoculated
a quarantine period of two weeks was observed with stool analysis and metabolism
check up made to be sure that the animal was free of disease and in good health.
On one series of cancer tests I inoculated the cancer virus that I isolated from
an unulcerated human breast mass into an Albino rat and grew the tumor. I surgically
removed this tumor and again isolated the virus and inoculated the next rat. I
did this 411 times on one series of tests to prove that the BX or the virus which
I had isolated was in reality the causative agent of cancer. This procedure is
shown in a documentary film which John Crane has of this work and it also shows
the virus of cancer before and after devitalization with a Rife frequency instrument.
An air bubble is shown coming into the cover slip because I had not sealed it.
We also did a great deal of work on tuberculosis with animals and proved that
the rod form and the virus form must both be devitalized to attain results which
requires two frequencies * One for each form before recovery can occur. The treatment
for all of the diseases proved successful and hundreds of tests were conducted
on each disease with adequate controls before the critical frequencies were established. |
| 112.
| Did
you compare the subsequent condition of the animals so treated with your frequency-generator
with the condition of "control" animals which had been inoculated with disease
but not treated with your frequency-generator? If so, describe the difference,
if any, which you observed in their condition. | | | Yes.
The inoculated controls died and the controls which were not inoculated were not
affected. | |
113. | About
how many experiments of this kind did you make? | | | 50,000
[note: on the original document 100,000 had been type-written,
crossed out and 50,000 added by hand] animal tests and 400 [15,000
type-written, crossed out and 400 written by hand] test tubes daily on
my experiments. | | |  |
| 114.
| Over
about what period of time did you conduct these experiments? |
| | 26 years |
| 115.
| Did
you find, from these experiments, that it made any difference which particular
frequency you used in the treatment of any certain disease? |
| | Yes |
| 116.
| Did
any disease respond exactly the same to all frequencies or a wide variety of frequencies?
If so, which one? | | | No |
| 117.
| Were
you able to determine whether each kind of bacteria or virus which you tested
was affected most by some particular frequency? | | | Yes |
| 118.
| What
happened when you used a different frequency on it? |
| | It was not affected |
| 119.
| Did
you make a moving picture showing the interior of your laboratory and some of
its equipment? | | | Yes |
| 120.
| Did
this moving picture also show some of your experimental work on laboratory animals? |
| | Yes. Some cancer work is
shown. | |
121. | In
this moving picture, who is the person shown performing surgical operations on
laboratory animals? | | | I
performed all surgery at the Rife Research Laboratory. |
| 123.
| Did
you ever explain to John F. Crane, one of the defendants in this case, the principles
upon which your electronic frequency-generator is used in the treatment of diseases? |
| | Yes in 1950 |
| 124.
| Did
you also inform him of the particular frequencies which you had found to be effective
in the treatment of various diseases? | | | Yes.
Verne Thompson and I gave the frequencies to John Crane. |
| 125.
| When
did you furnish him with this information? | | | In
1950 | |
126. | Did
you ever request any governmental department or agency to make a test of your
electronic frequency-generator to determine its effect upon diseases? If so, which
one or ones? | | | Yes.
The Department of Health, Education and Welfare and the National Research Council
* Committee on Growth * Washington D.C., The American Cancer Society, The Damon
Runyon Fund, The Slone Kettering Institute, The International Cancer Clinic and
many others. They have shown no interest in an electronic method. |
| 127.
| Did
any one of them express willingness to make such a test, or even to observe such
a test? Is so, which one? | | | Yes.
The American Cancer Society was interested until they found out that John Crane
and I are not medical doctors and then they called John Crane from New York and
stated that they had decided to cancel the proposed project which would have shown
them how to isolate the virus, make it virulent, grow the cancer tumors and how
to electronically eliminate the cancer. They spend millions on drugs but nothing
on electronics unless it will supplement drugs like X-Ray and radioactive treatments
which put terrible scar tissue and burns inside the body and then the person has
to have a great amount of dope and pain killers to keep the pain down. The drug
racketeer makes ten billion dollars annually on cancer alone and with this money
they have been able to have an unconstitutional law put on the books which stated
that people will only be treated for cancer by medical doctors with X-Ray, radioactive
treatments, and surgery creating a drug monopoly to kill cancer; slowly. |
| 128.
| Did
any one of them ever actually make a test of your electronic frequency-generator,
using the frequencies which you had found to be effective, so far as you know? |
| | No |
| 129.
| Did
you ever request any medical school to make a test of your electronic frequency-generator,
using the frequencies which you had found to be effective? |
| | Yes |
| 130.
| Other
than the work of the Special Committee under Dr. Milbank Johnson, did any medical
school express a willingness to make such a test? | | | Yes.
Work was done at the Hooper Foundation of the University of California and at
Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago by Ernest Lynwood Walker and
Arthur I. Kendall |
| 131.
| Did
you ever request any medical society to make a test of your electronic frequency-generator,
using the frequencies which you had found to be effective? If so, which one or
ones? | | | Yes.
The American Medical Association |
| 132.
| Did
any medical society express a willingness to make, or to observe such a test? |
| | No |
| 133.
| So
far as you know, has any medical society ever made a test of your electronic frequency-generator,
using the frequencies which you had found to be effective? |
| | No |
| 134.
| Have
you ever made or observed a test of the effect of the electronic frequency-generators,
of the type produced by John F. Crane, one of the Defendants in this case? If
so, tell us the kind of test or tests, who made such a test or tests, and what
result you observed. | | | Yes.
I saw the instrument kill earthworms., bacillus coli and others. I showed John
Crane how to accomplish this work. [note: the text starting
with "bacillus coli..." was obviously added later using a different type-writer] |
| |  |
| 135.
| Have
you been awarded a Research Fellowship in Bio-Chemistry by any nationally-known
Institute for Scientific Research? | | | Yes |
| 136.
| What
is the name of it? | | | Andean
Anthropological Expedition |
| 137.
| Is
this a copy of the award, together with a copy of the covering letter or transmittal
from the Andean Anthropological Expedition? (Attach as Defendant's Exhibit C). |
| | Yes | | |  | |
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